Stereotypes
Today, once again, I saw another feminist reference a stereotype of feminists used against her to discredit her. Who it is doesn’t really specifically matter, because it was the same old tired type of stereotype I see used against feminists all the time – an implication that feminism neccesarily means not shaving off body hair and being “fat” (which according to many anti-feminist men I’ve encountered, means anything over a size 8.)
And you’ve probably seen this many times, unless you’ve been living under a rock. A woman speaks up for her rights and sooner or later someone comes along and yells, “Shut up, you hairy-legged, fat, man-hating dyke!” And the woman who made the statements is supposed to be immediately put on the defensive. “I’m not fat! I shave my legs every day! I like men!”
On a wider cultural level, this has morphed into the “nice, pretty feminist” defense and the “lipstick lesbians”. “See, we are pretty, we shave, we diet and exercise, we wear makeup. We care about being pretty. We wear stockings and dresses. We LIKE dressing up. We enjoy being feminine. We have a boyfriend/a husband/lots of boyfriends/lots of male friends. We are therefore safe from your criticisms, which are totally without basis.” This sort of defensiveness, particularly when the accusation has become old hat yet is untrue, is easy to understand.
But there are feminist women (and non-feminist women, for that matter) who do not shave their legs or armpits, who are overweight or fat and are not dieting, who are lesbians or even feminist seperatists. Anti-feminist agitators know this and hope to catch a few women in their net as they throw out these blanket accusations.
What is the message conveyed by the frequent practice of anti-feminists making off-topic ad feminem attacks on women’s appearance or personal relationships while ignoring what they are actually talking about? I see two here, although perhaps they really are the same.
The first message is that if you are female, your appearance is the most important thing about you. If a fat woman who does not shave her legs or wear makeup speaks eloquently and brilliantly about how we can help raped and abused women and children, all most people will see about her is that she is fat and doesn’t shave or wear makeup. They don’t care what she said – or perhaps more accurately, they dismiss or are even antagonistic to what she said because of her appearance. She has transgressed against society’s rules for women’s appearance. It does not matter is she is fat due to genetics or disease; it does not matter if she objects to animal testing done on most makeup products or is allergic to almost all makeup or feels spending money on makeup is a form of luxury spending she feels is overly consumerish and spoiled; it does not matter if she breaks out into a rash every time she shaves and so has decided to stop. She is trangressing against women’s place in the world and must be smacked down. An interesting exception to this rule comes into play, however, if the woman obviously follows a strict interpretation of a patriarchal religion. If her refusal to wear makeup or shave her body are framed as submission to a male God, a male priesthood, and her husband or father, she is immune from criticism on this basis.
What this tells us is that wearing make up, removing all socially offensive body hair, and struggling to keep our weight within societally sanctioned norms are all seen as methods of control. A woman who is thin, removes every hair not growing on her scalp, and who wears makeup daily is perceived as being someone under control, non-threatening, non-rebellious, still somewhat under control of the patriarchy. (Note the emphasis on perceived – I am not suggesting that every thin woman who shaves and wears makeup is not committed to feminism – although the mere fact that I have to include that disclaimer shows how divisive the accusation is, for divisiveness amongst women is one toxic effect of these type of verbal jabs.) A woman who does not do these things because she accepts that her body is under the control of a male god is not criticized for it because she is still perceived as being under control of the patriarchy – she is “safe”.
There are so many layers to this. Pornography and how the male gaze has been conditioned to expect certain things about women’s appearance is one layer – the idea of women as objects or trophies to be judged on their appearance. The Republicans, during their last convention, had a speaker insult Democratic women for being unshaven, non-makeup wearing and “ugly”. Democratic men responded by showcasing girlfriends and wives who were slender and hairless. PETA uses societal standards of beauty against women they dislike and exploit thin, white women’s bodies for publicity purposes as seen here and here. Ann Coulter – whose status as a slender, white women who conforms to societal expectations of women almost certainly contributes to her success – is slammed by men on the left for being “too thin” or for possibly being a man due to having a prominent larynx. Meanwhile, men on the right defend her as being “beautiful AND smart“! There is little doubt which of the two adjectives is more important to them – consider which one is always listed first.
It is true that there are societal standards of appearance for both men and women. But the amount of effort required by women to keep up an “acceptable” appearance is much greater than that required of men. In order to be generally socially acceptable in appearance, men are required to wear clean, unstained, unwrinkled clothing, brush their teeth, comb their hair (if they have any), be clean shaven or have a trimmed beard and moustache, weigh less than 300 pounds, and wear deodorant – and this is only for formal situations. When a man is not going to work or any formal function, a number of these things will be overlooked.
But a woman must do all of these things and more. Women who wear a size 12- weighing perhaps 160 – can be vilified as “fat” by complete strangers and are expected to feel bad about themselves, stop eating “so much”, and go to a gym. Men are not expected to wear makeup daily to be attractive, but women are. Women are expected, due to the increasing ubiquity of the practice in porn, to shave all or part of their pubic hair. Women are expected to shave their legs and armpits. Failing to do any of these costly and time consuming processes on a regular basis is referred to as “not taking care of yourself.” It is considered grounds for street harassment and romantic rejection. A woman who does not conform is blamed for not being taken seriously or for being treated badly.
The problem is – when women do perform these acts of conformity, they aren’t treated well anyway. Street harassment does not disappearwhen a woman keeps her weight down and dresses like a model – the harrassment merely changes from “hey you fat ugly bitch!” to “hey hot mama, come sit on my face!” Ann Coulter is, as demonstrated by her male fan club above, seen as primarily a visually attractive woman. They clearly like what she is saying, but her appearance is more important to them than her words. How many political campaigns do you see who use a conventionally attractive female actress to gain publicity? Are they selling their concept or her body? Is she really being listened to, or is she just being used as bait to get men’s attention? Being used as bait does not make you powerful – consider what happens to live bait when one goes fishing.
A woman’s appearance should have absolutely no bearing on whether or not one takes her politics seriously. The fact that it does shows that controlling women’s appearance – and thus, controlling their bodies and their lives – is a central concern to the patriarchy.
The second message conveyed by the standard ad feminem attack – that of lesbian-baiting or accusing the writer of misandry – is related but uglier and more convoluted. The assumption behind this accusation, whether or not it is true, is that men’s needs and desires should be the top priority of all women at all times. Lesbian women offend against this by refusing to make men’s sexual desires a priority to them at all, whether this be by choice or by inclination. Women who do not constantly qualify every discussion of rape or domestic abuse with “and remember, this happens to men too” are accused of man-hating because they put the majority of victims of these crimes – women – before the minority of victims – men. “Individualist feminists” have become popular among libertarian men because while they purport to focus on the injustices done to women because “men and women deserve equal treatment under law”, the home page of the forerunning “iFeminist organization” is comprised almost entirely of links meant to help men, stories about how men get the short end of the stick, stories purporting women to be liars, and praise of sexualized images of women.
To suggest a woman’s first priority should NOT be that of her husband, her boyfriend, or men in general is obviously stilll a radical idea which society cannot handle. Merely failing to put men’s interests first will earn a woman an accusation of “man-hater” or “dyke”. Men are so accustomed to being the primary benificiaries of every government policy, every law, every social convention and marketing campaign, that to be asked to take second place even in such places as a feminist’s personal blog or a women’s studies class triggers their outrage. They then demand entry, demand attention, demand women waste their time and energy explaining and qualifying and backtracking and apologizing and being “polite” and sweet and nice and dainty and ladylike – in an attempt to assuage their male egos. Only once a message is watered down to ineffiacy or stated so generally that almost no one can argue (”Rape is bad!” “The patriarchy hurts men too!” “Both men and women can be victims of domestic violence!”) will they lend their support. Often, then after demanding the message be tailored to suit them in order to gain their stamp of approval, they will point to their support of this issue as evidence of their “feminism”. And if you question or challenge them on this, you are labelled a “radical”, a “divider”, and of course, a “man-hater”.
If prioritzing my concerns about the human race puts first the concerns of women, because they are not only the class of people who bring children into this world, but are also expected to do most of the work most basic to human survival; including caring for those children so that they survive into adulthood, house work, providing food (both in terms of cooking it and growing it (did you know that women comprise 72% of the estimated 1 billion migrant farmers and 80% of all farm workers in Africa?) – while at the same time they are often denied education; an equal voice (or any voice at all) in “their” government; an equal voice (or any voice at all) in “their” religion; a right to their bodies, be that the right to use contraception, abortion, to have sex or refuse sex on their own terms, to avoid being beaten or killed or to fight back against those who assault them – then yes, I will put women first. I will put these concerns before men’s whining about how boys are being discriminated against in school because they don’t want to follow the rules that the girls are following; I will put these concerns before men whining that they are discriminated against in divorce court by being told to hand over a percentage of their income to children they fathered, or that they are discriminated against by not being given primary custody of a child of whom they were never the primary caretaker; I will put these concerns before the concerns of men who feel it is more important they have glossy magazines filled with images of women they consider to be “eye candy” than it is that the women in the porn industry are abused and raped and coerced into the industry a frighteningly large percentage of the time. If this is what makes me a radical feminist, I am proud to be a radical feminist. If you think that makes me a man-hater, what does it say about you that you think men’s convenience should trump any concern’s about women’s worldwide subjugation? If you think “lesbian” is an insult, maybe you should question why you think all women should be willing to meet your sexual needs. If you whine that I should instead be a “humanist”, go back and read the preceding paragraph and tell me what is not “humanist” about addressing the most major form of injustice in the world.
In short, the second message is a denial of women’s humanity and autonomy, and a denial of reality – it is saying that women’s torture and murder and abuse at the hands of men should be ignored or glossed over in order to avoid offending men. This ties in with the first message in this – that women are always expected to be soothing and non-threatening, even when talking about how they were raped or how their sisters or friends or mothers or daughters were raped, beaten or killed – that there is no excuse for women to fail to attempt to please men at all times, no matter how much men fail to care about women.
Failing to live solely to please men is a radical act – their outrage whenever they are not catered to is proof of this.
April 14, 2006 at 10:20 pm
Wow. I’m speechless. You are so good at putting these thoughts down on paper. I absolutely 100% agree. With everything. Well said. Now, if only the people who need to hear this would listen. Really listen.
Thank you amananta, for another excellent post!
April 15, 2006 at 1:59 pm
Sheesh–you said a mouthful and a half. Great stuff!
The Lipstick Feminist issue is one I personally grapple with. I’ve owned up to being thin in order to discuss eating disorders, owned up to thin AND white in order to discuss privilege. I’ve been able to cast off some trappings of “feminity” completely (heels, women’s bathing suits) but still shave my legs (at least in the summer) and wear makeup. I’m comfortable there for now, so that’s were I remain — part “Lipstick” part “Hairy Man-Hater and even Dyke” at times.
True true true that if I were to stop shaving my legs, it would take a HUGE amount of energy to grow the ovaries needed to not give a crap about the comments and sneers — especially at work and with clients.
April 15, 2006 at 4:03 pm
Kaka – this is true, it does take a lot of energy, and can be detrimental to a woman’s livelihood. I don’t expect women to be a martyr to the feminist cause. I do like for people to be aware of why they make the choices they do, though.
I don’t shave my legs – but I always wear skirts long enough to cover my legs at work, or pants. I know people have to have noticed by now, though, because I’ve been at this company for years and skirts don’t always stay in place. And sometimes, even though I hate doing it, I do shave my legs when I have to travel for business because I am afraid of the repurcussions if I don’t. But the mere fact that a woman has to be worried about losing her job because of a simple body hair choice is ludicrous. Same with the rest of it. I don’t understand how a woman cannot be considered attractive without altering her body in some way.
Many men are considered attractive even though they have a beard or shave off their body hair, or wear makeup. Women, on the other hand, are supposed to be hyperfocused on their appearance. Its a way of making sure we waste our energy on something worthless. Then women are blamed for paying so much attention to heir looks in the first place – what is demanded of women in terms of beuty takes an enormous amount of effort to maintain, yet women who spend a lot of time on their appearance are considered vain and shallow. And if we refuse, we are punished – called ugly, dykes, feminazis, told we aren’t taking care of ourselves.
April 15, 2006 at 8:40 pm
Wow. Your writing is incredible. Clear, unapologetic, smart.
April 17, 2006 at 3:50 pm
Manxome – thank you so much! I feel like a fever sort of takes me sometimes and then I look up two hours later, with all the things I was supposed to be doing still left undone, and I feel guilty for going on so long. The encouragment means a lot to me, it really does.
I saw you added my blog to your list – do you mind if I do the same?
March 24, 2007 at 7:02 pm
Yeah, I don’t give a crap about my appearance, I wear what’s comfortable and keep fairly clean. I hate it when people use those same tired insults.
July 4, 2007 at 8:58 am
good, thanks
April 6, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Sorry – no “BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MENZ! THINK OF THE POOR POOR WIDDLE MENZ AND THEIR PROBLEMS! comments allowed here.
The entire world is in sympathy with men and their problems. Women’s problems are ALWAYS shunted off to the side and considered of secondary importance – except amongst feminists.
And no, “joanna” – being a woman does not exempt you from being called out on sexist bullshit. If you want male approval, go to them with this line and they will give you plenty of approval. But don’t come to a feminist blog with a “but what about the problems of the men, OH DEAR GOD PLEASE SOMEONE THINK OF THE MEN!” and expect to be given space for it. You have the rest of the internet to spew that crap.
August 20, 2008 at 10:05 am
Fantastic article! Very interesting how the standard of attractiveness for men tends to be women who don’t look very female at all. Take a look at Ann Coulter – so thin her bones are jutting out, a masculine larynx, heavy pointed masculine facial features, none of the soft roundedness so typical of our gender – rather she is somewhat curveless.
I find a great deal of men (inc my ex boyfriend) are attracted to this type of woman over and over. Ann Coulter reminds me of someone my ex wanted before he met me. This might sound really unsupportive of my fellow woman but, like Coulter, she really did look like a man in drag – a lady boy! She wasn’t a nice person either, my ex knew this but it didn’t stop him trying to kiss her (she rejected him but still…..) 8 months into our relationship he attempted to control me by my weight by saying he would no longer find me attractive if i put on more weight. I n early dumped him then, adds to the feeling of relief I have now that I am no longer with him! i’m 29 and an adult, he was 36 with the mind and sexuality of a 15 year old.
Yup you guessed, it was a recent break up, only 2 months ago, still smarting esp as he did it by text while i was working abroad for a few weeks, lovely way to end 2yr relationship, never wanted to see me to talk & part amicably when i returned, now i’m supposed to forget about him like our relationship never existed. I instigated the conversation that led to the break up because i was very unhappy but i never in a million years thought we would finish like that while one of us was so far away
I am criticising men here – why do they feel sexually/visually attracted to the least feminine looking women? The women with zero-little body fat, very tall, heavy unpretty masculine features; deep set eyes, big often pointed noses, prominent jawlines/pointy chins etc. You know the type – they populate our catwalks by their thousands these days, they’re models but are not even that pretty! I suppose my point is that half of them barely qualify visually as female let alone attractive!
Again I’m not attacking the women – I’m criticising men. Why is it that these particular women are held up as standards of beauty by such a high number of our panting men and, naturally, many of ourselves in response?
Gets me thinking maybe many men don’t actually want ‘female’ at all! The typically female body (the biggest chunk of women) tends to be given to softness, curviness and features tend to be soft and, well, lightly set and pretty. Most women on average fall in the generally curvy category – anything from uk size 12 up to 20. Below and above those are the minority women who are particularly thin or particularly curvy. Yet I find that the majority of men seek women in the particularly thin category, maybe pushing to a size 12-14 if they are a bit more mature/reasonable. And, like my ex who met me at size 18 btw, they often get nasty about those of us who are size 12-14 and over even if they propose to love us at first.
We women are so affected by this mindset that many of us begin to worry about our weight as soon as we hit a size 14, never realising that we are beautiful and perfectly normal within the physical tendencies of our female earth-goddess gender. Recently, uk media has delighted in slagging off a well known female celebrity who, horror of horrors, has rocketed to a uk size 12!! OH MY GOD THE FAT UGLY BITCH!!!! QUICK!! TAPE HER CAKEHOLE UP!!
That is worrying, especially for our young women. I am a uk size 18/20 and I wish I was a size 12 again. If I had realised how beautiful and normal I was then hadn’t been convinced I was fat (at 17) helped by the mid 90s waif culture (it was 1996) I might not have yo-yo dieted and ended up as large as I am now.
Take a look at the female goddesses of ancient times – they were all large women with large breasts, hips, bottoms. Yet today, can you really see Venus of Willendorf on a catwalk in Paris, Milan, New York or London? Our ability to give life and take it away was prized and feared by men, until they hit upon an idea to control our minds and our bodies to allay their fears of us. They told us they would not love us anymore if our hips and stomachs were to large, our bottoms were too wide, our breasts were large but drooping, our bodies were hairy and smelly because of our daily secreting the sacred fluid that has welcomed and aided the entry of their members and aided the live passage of our young into the world since the dawn of our kind. They told us they could not love us if we answered them back, were stronger than them, more independent than them or disagreed with their opinions and blamed us if they were too weak and inadequate to keep up with us (my ex…) Like Shakespeares Shrew we must be tamed or face the punishment of never partnering/marrying or having children (our natural biological urge) because we are too strong and outspoken for any man to marry/put up with for the rest of his life! There is a dichotomy between ‘cold career women’ and ‘warm loving housewives’ which continues to this day – we still struggle now to find a way of balancinwg the need to use our intelligence and gain personal fulfillment, and the right to love and be loved by a man if we are heterosexual. For my sisters out there who choose to love other women, please note I am writing from the perspective of my experiences as a heterosexual woman and the issues commonly faced by us; the pull between career/self actualisation and the ‘traditional’ marriage/children with a man. I, and I’m sure many other women, would be interested to hear your experiences and the issues you typically face in the mans world we live in, so please do respond!
This is a wonderful website and a place where all women (and thinking men) can come together to discuss experiences and grow together.
Thank you all for reading my exceedingly long post (typical of me…!!)
Jenny xx
August 20, 2008 at 10:18 am
A brief addition just to show how concerning this issue is – a 21 year old ex student of mine from the middle east is both a beautiful looking girl and very intelligent with a promising academic career. She, like so many of us, is the living embodiment of the dichotomy I described above. Visually appealing to men at first who think they’ve hit the jackpot (my ex and many of her suitors) but what a disappointment when we open our mouths!
One day during a lesson she said that she knows she is likely to be too intelligent to marry in the future despite her beauty because men do not like a woman who answers back. If she does wish to marry she is likely to be required to relinquish her academic career. She may be able to study again but may not be able to have a full serious career from it. Her career will be seen as a useful hobby contributing to the family purse as needed but the main income and most important career will belong to her husband.
Whether a woman lives in the middle east, the far east, the west, whether we are young or old, we face the same barriers.
August 26, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Jenny, I read through your comment about the various sizes of women and the treatment they/we get and it made me think about my belly dancing class last night. It really blows my mind (in that it’s such a refreshing/different mindset) when I’m dancing away with women of various sizes and everyone looks so beautiful. There are no men around and it feels like I’m really part of a tribe (American Tribal Style, w00t!), and I am helped to enjoy my own curves as the women around me enjoys theirs. It’s a great experience, so different from standing around listening to discussions of diets/self-hate at work/break time.
January 4, 2009 at 12:28 am
I agree whole heartedly with most, if not all, of the above. The only thing i would say, is don’t forget there ARE nice men out there! x