How long before they admit it?
How long before they admit it’s been open season on women for several thousand years now? How can it be denied any longer? I have no patience anymore with platitudes made to stifle my anger in my throat and tell me everything is really not all that bad and that in fact I have it really good and should just calm down.
Johannesburg, Africa – Women protest the frequent “losing” of documents needed to prosecute rape cases. 10/03/2006
Man breaks into 51 year old woman’s home and wakes her from a nap by sexually assaulting her. 10/03/2006
18 year old man lures a woman to his apartment, then rapes her and beats and chokes her to death. 10/03/2006
England – Man rapes a 15 year old girl twice then throws her into a canal. 10/03/2006
Man kidnapped and raped his exgirlfriend at gunpoint. 10/03/2006
Two separate women were raped by men in hotels in unrelated cases. 10/03/2006
Man being held for felonious sexual assault of a three year old. 10/03/2006
A RAINN member writes into a paper correcting the erroneous statistics they reported, letting them know that in the United States, 176,540 rapes against women were reported and 73% of the reported rapes were committed by a man the woman knew. 10/03/2006
Neighbors interrupt a man attemting to sexually assault a young woman. 10/02/2006
Man kidnaps woman and her young child, attempts to rape her. 10/02/2006
Man rapes woman in her hotel room. 10/02/2006
Man kidnaps woman at bus stop and attempts to rape her. 10/02/2006
Ireland – Man sexually assaults woman in Sligo. 10/01/2006
Northern Ireland Rape Crisis Center fighting government decision to stop funding. 10/02/2006
Man attempts to rape woman at bar. 10/02/2006
South Africa – Legislator found guilty of rape, allowed to continue serving anyway. 10/02/2006
Man attempts to sexually assault woman at beach. 10/02/2006
Five girls killed by grown man who invades Amish schoolroom for “revenge” for undisclosed wrongs. 10/01/2006
Man chases down his wife and shoots her. 10/02/2006
Man kills his wife because she was going to leave him. 10/01/2006
Man follows three young girls, catches one and rapes her. 10/01/2006
Man breaks into home of 82 year old woman, robs and rapes her. 09/29/2006
Man invades school, takes 6 girls hostage, sexually assaults them, kills one. 09/27/2006
India – man kills infant daughter because he wanted a son. 09/26/2006
59 year old woman raped in her own home – 09/26/2006.
Afghanistan – Gunmen kill women’s rights activist for the crime of – educating girls. 09/26/2006
Man kills woman and her daughter for reasons unknown. 09/26/2006
India – Man beats wife to death years after she leaves him. 09/24/2006
UK – Older teen boy rapes 14 year old girl. 09/23/2006
Man kills his wife and himself, no known motive. 09/22/2006
Man finds his wife in a domestic abuse shelter and kills her. 09/19/2006
Man shoots his wife at a party. 09/19/2006
Woman choked, dragged to death by boyfriend. 09/18/2006
India – Three men gang-rape 12 year old, are released on bail. 09/18/2006
Nun killed in retaliation for one male-dominated religion’s animosity for another male dominated religion. 09/17/2006
Man kills friend’s infant daughter after being asked to watch her for a brief time. 09/19/2006
Austin man rapes woman after offering her a ride. 09/18/2006
Man breaks into his estranged wife’s home and shoots her. 09/14/2006
Man kills estranged wife and shoots her new boyfriend in front of their five children. 09/14/2006
Pakistan – Man kills wife and daughter on “suspiscion of illicit relations”. 09/14/2006
England – Woman violently raped after being dropped off by taxi. 09/10/2006
Two men invade a couple’s home, tie them up, and rape the wife. 09/09/2006
Man beats wife, tries to burn mother in law. 09/07/2006
India – Man shoots wife because of “financial constraints”. 09/07/2006
Austrailia – Rugby team charged with raping a woman, which, of course, is referred to as a “scandal”. 09/06/2006
Man kills estranged wife at hardware store. 09/04/2006
Man sees two other men raping a woman, so he takes pictures and then joins them. 09/04/2006
This is just in the past 4 weeks, and this is only the cases that make national American news. You can’t pick up a paper without finding at least one story a day about a man killing or raping a woman. And we all know many more stories never make the paper. Why not? Becasue there wouldn’t be room, because they have “more important” things to report on, because it’s so common it isn’t considered newsworthy unless there is some special twist to it. Even in this list I know there are stories I have read over the last month that I can no longer find a headline on because they were considered so insignificant that they’ve been dropped! Men killing and raping women and girls is not news, it is common, everyday life we are supposed to politely overlook unless the story is shocking in some way, such as in the Shreveport case where the rapists were illegal immigrants and thus all illegal immigrants can be painted as dangerous criminals, or the victim is particularly young, or a man who killed his wife did so in public instead of decently killing her behind closed doors, or he killed their children as well.
When are they going to quit lying about how much they hate us?
Guatemala: Nearly 1700 women have been killed in Guatemala in the past five years, often by particularly brutal methods. The crimes often go unsolved.
Number of major world religions in which women have an equal voice with men and prominent leadership positions – zero. (Those religions being Christianity – all types; Islam; Hinduism; and Buddhism – adherents of which comprise about 75-80% of the world’s population)
Contrary to men’s frequent boast that they protect women and children from the horrors of war by becoming soldiers when women don’t “have to” (more like, aren’t allowed to), when men have wars with each other, it is women and children who suffer, comprising 80% of displaced refugees and internally displaced persons. In addition to losing their home and country, many thousands of women are raped in virtually every war by the invading soldiers, as a deliberate tactic meant to demoralize them.
From every level, from the personal, to the national, to the world, men have exhibited a pattern of brutality against women – marginalization within their own religion, humiliation, demands for subservience, beatings, rape, murder. I used to ask why men hate us so much – now I no longer care. I could give a fuck why the man who shot a bunch of little Amish girls held some grudge against women that he felt he was exorcising by killling little girls and their teacher. I could give a fuck that the man who shot his wife was “depressed” or “distraught” because she was leaving his sorry ass. Pleas and raising awareness and “Domestic violence awareness month” have done nothing to stop or even slow the tremendous rate at which men abuse women, while women are rarely violent towards men or other women at any significant level. This cuts across every culture, every race, every religion. No culture on earth is free from men’s practice of stamping women down into the dust and then demanding their smiling compliance with their own oppression, with an implicit or explicit threat to their very lives if they dare raise their voices in protest. Women, as a rule, do not violently resist, do not violently retaliate, do not arm themselves against the class of people who are so clearly almost the exclusive perpetrators of violence all around the world. Why not?
I’ve been a semi-pacifist for years but I am beginning to seriously doubt the wisdom of this stance. It may just be that unless and until it is widely known almost all women are armed and willing to shoot to kill any man who tries to beat them, rape them, molest them, kick them out of their homes, destroy their prized possessions, or harm their children, than men will continue to do this. There is virtually no punishment visited upon men who violently harm women. Women are supposed to be utterly passive in the face of this brutal abuse, they are blamed for their passivity, and on the rare occasions when they fight back, even with words, they are blamed for being unfeminine or being “just as bad” as the aggressive man who provoked them. The most egaliatarian governments in the world hardly consider it a crime to rape a woman except under the most violent and extreme circumstances. Men can beat their wives with near impunity almost everywhere. Warmongers who are responsible for deaths of thousands of women and children due to having driven them from their homes or having dropped bombs on their heads receive a sharply worded missive from other powerful men, nothing more. Men who run religions which call for the imprisonment of women in their home or forced child-bearing no matter what the circumstances of pregnancy or death by stoning to women who are raped for “adultery” are barely criticized by other men, who claim since it is a religious belief, it is somehow immune from criticism. Women who bear children and nurse them and dress them and feed them and raise them to adulthood are told by powerful men who run the world that they “don’t work”, they are denied any share of the economic bounty of their nation and are forced into relationships with men in order to survive no matter how misrably those men may treat them – else they are forced to work outside their home, usually for a lower wage than men, and are told they are bad mothers for “abandoning” their children. Women pressed into servicing men sexually are then labelled as impure and sinful by those same men who demand their existence as sexual outlets, and are frequently violently abused or even killed, and their abusers and murderers are rarely punished because women who sexually service men are not seen by men as human beings.
Men don’t respect women, don’t consider women human, don’t care if women are hurt or killed by other men, will not stand up for us, will not help us. They have done everything but declare open war on us – but a failure to declare war does not mean that we are not living under war-like circumstances. Given the failure of any male-run authority on earth to take seriously or adequately address the overwhelming tide of violence by men against women who have largely remained peaceful and non-violent, is it not time to start fighting back?
October 3, 2006 at 1:03 pm
I know, its no better in the UK. Sometimes I wish we could turn the tables so that men experience the oppression and pain that women have felt for centuries. But they would probably immediately forget and deny again. Rape, violence, misogyny and pornstitution are everywhere and yet people try to tone it down and ignore it all. But this is why we must keep fighting and pushing and being angry. Our anger is important.
October 3, 2006 at 1:11 pm
Anger is only important if it inspires action. It seems to me that people – well, Americans at least – are very complacent. They don’t want anything to disrupt their fash-food eating – pro sport watching lives. Any inconveinent truth will be ignored.
I have to echo the statement I just read (but now can’t find) – I sometimes wonder if men are even human. History is replete with examples of horrible violence committed by humans against other humans. But which humans are most often the perpetraitors? Hint – it’s not little Amish girls.
October 3, 2006 at 4:03 pm
You know, one aspect of this that troubles me is the way so many woman-killers or girl-killers so easily substitute one female for another. Only by this logic can a man exact “revenge” against his ex-wife by shooting a bunch of other females who are completely unconnected to his life. And the sad thing is that this logic is innately understood by people who hear or talk about these events without ever being questioned.
October 3, 2006 at 4:13 pm
Oh yes, the message is clear – all women must pressure other women to be as simperingly sweet to men as possible, or they may have to pay for some other woman being uppity some day. Women are not allowed to be individual people, but are instead seen a group upon whom men are allowed to wreak vengance whenever their dewicate widdle feewings get hurt. Questons like “what do women want?” just illustrate this inability to see women as individuals who might all want different things. But if women dare to talk about men in the same way, why then we are unfairly generalizing!
It’s “funny” – men will insist up and down women don’t have things all that bad, that women actually have a lot of power or behave just as badly as men do, but every time I see a feminist suggest women actually do something to men which men typically do to women all the time, there are cries of horror and platitudes like “two wrongs don’t mke a right”. This just proves they actually know they have put women into a position they would never want to be in, because if women really didn’t have it all that bad, they wouldn’t protest at thoughts of women perhaps someday possibly having more political or religious power than men.
October 3, 2006 at 4:30 pm
What i’ve seen a lot of them insist is that women don’t have it any worse than men. For example, they will try to argue that most victims of violence are male and this “proves” that men are not waging war on women.
But this argument depends on overlooking vast inequalities. Why are 90+% of all violent criminals men? Why do we never hear about women walking into a school and shooting five random boys to get revenge on some man who wronged her?
October 3, 2006 at 4:37 pm
They also can’t see past their enormous sense of privilege to even see what an equal and opposite reaction looks like – for instance, in a recent article on the site “Hollaback NYC” (which is linked in my sidebar) where women post photos of men who sexually harass them on the street, men were complaining that perhaps women post such photos for revenge and many compared having their picture taken unfairly to violently abusing women unfairly, as if the two actions were equivalent. It becomes clear, upon watching men’s reactions to any complaints by women about their treatment, that men think any expression of anger by women towards men as a group is both equivalent to men’s patterns of violent abuse towards women AND justification of continuing that abuse. This hyperfocus on women’s verbal or written complaints about their ill-treatment at the hand sof men also ignores the many volumes written by men which cast slurs upon women, both historically and in the modern era.
October 3, 2006 at 4:48 pm
Brilliant post. So sad and so true. Lets treat men how they treat women. There would be a national outcry if men had to go through the evil things that women endure every single day. It is through violence and fear that we are ruled over by men.
October 3, 2006 at 6:33 pm
“They also can’t see past their enormous sense of privilege to even see what an equal and opposite reaction looks like”
I respectfully sumbit the following:
“I think people shouldn’t shop at Wal-Mart when there’s another alternative in the area, and I try convincing people to boycott it (though the only ones I know who live in an area with a Wal-Mart to boycott already do). But I’m not going to start questioning people’s liberal credentials if they tell me they shop at Wal-Mart. It’s not all about personal life.
And, mind you, porn isn’t Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart hurts its workers in specific ways: racial discrimination, gender discrimination, violations of overtime laws, low wages, union-busting, poor benefits, etc. It also hurts other workers in a specific way: it requires competitors and suppliers to lower their wages to compete. Whatever harm porn may cause doesn’t even come close to that. If you need to wade through academic feminist theory to prove that something is harmful, it’s not in the same category as something that you only need to know very basic economics to figure out.”
Anyone feel like playing “Spot the Male Priviledge”?
What happens to women as a result of the commodification of women isn’t nearly as bad as the other wrongs he (rightly) accuses Wal-Mart of. The implication is clear – women are lesser beings, and their concerns (especially when they threatened someone’s precious porn stash) aren’t all that important because other – bigger more important – things happen to men.
October 3, 2006 at 6:45 pm
Of course!
I find it “amusing” that he thinks he would have to wade through feminist theory to find proof that porn hurts women, or that he thinks porn workers don’t also suffer from gender discriminiation, poor benefits, racial discrimination, etc. You have to deliberately blind yourself to the harm porn does to avoid knowing about it, not merely refuse to pore over “academic feminist theory”. (And note the subtle disparaging tone used to dismiss what well-educated feminists have struggled to bring to the attention of the public – but when less educated women complain of the same things, they are dismissed for being uneducated!)
October 3, 2006 at 7:24 pm
what’s so sick is, for instance with the coward who murdered the Amish girls, all the voices you hear have “no explanaition” for what happene. It’s a total shocking mystery. Andrea Dworkin is right when she says, what they (the men who do the talking) find so shocking is that they weren’t women they were already having sex with. They were other men’s women.
All of those articles fit in with the way we know what’s going on, no mystery, I also agree with Andrea who says most women find these acts familiar, not strange.
October 3, 2006 at 7:25 pm
It’s also significant when a man kills and terrorizes women in a classroom. Because women shouldn’ be there in the first place.
listen to this:
http://www.andreadworkin.com/audio/montrealdworkin.mp3
October 3, 2006 at 7:27 pm
Oh yes – all these other murders, where a man kills 2 or 3 or more people including children, get no more than a mention in the local paper, because they were HIS children. So it’s a crime but apparently not worth a lot of horror and handwringing on the part of the community.
October 3, 2006 at 7:29 pm
“It’s also significant when a man kills and terrorizes women in a classroom. Because women shouldn’ be there in the first place.”
Yes – it’s no different from the Afghan male terrorists, who are supposedly so different from us, killing a woman teacher the other week, for being so uppity as to think girls are worth being educated.
October 3, 2006 at 7:47 pm
what’s so sick is, for instance with the coward who murdered the Amish girls, all the voices you hear have “no explanaition” for what happene.
saltyC, you’re absolutely right. I love how the crime will remain a “mystery” until they get a suicide note, and then they’ll talk about how some woman caused him to do it. Either it can be blamed on a woman somehow or it’s just “unexplained, because no one is apparently allowed to say that a man goes into a classroom and shoots all the girls because, and SIMPLY because, HE HATES WOMEN.
October 3, 2006 at 8:00 pm
Amananta, yes I fully agree – we are at war, even if undeclared. And most of this is unreported as it is ‘un-newsworthy’.
I would like to add that some women DO fight back, but unfortunately, the law, MEN’S laws, are against them. See: http://www.jfw.org.uk/ONTRIAL.HTM
If we arm ourselves with guns, they will always make sure they have bigger guns. But you are right, in that we should NOT be meek and mild, but get angry, very angry.
Angryandqueer said: “You know, one aspect of this that troubles me is the way so many woman-killers or girl-killers so easily substitute one female for another. Only by this logic can a man exact “revenge” against his ex-wife by shooting a bunch of other females who are completely unconnected to his life.”
Angryandqueer, that was such a succinct summation, I had to repeat it. It illustrates beautifully that the war IS AGAINST WOMEN, all women, and they are regarded as less than equal, ‘others’, and facelessly interchangeable – just ‘things’ that don’t matter, to be used and discarded at will.
I’m angry, fucking angry. The news headlines I dream about are:
“Angry feminist kills all male politicians with machine gun in Parliament gun-rage”
“Angry feminist opens fire in cigar-smoke infested boardroom”
“Police are baffled by mysterious deaths around the world… victims die when watching porn or reading pornographic magazines”
“Mysterious fatalities of spouse abusers and rapists – symptoms include grabbing of the crotch before collapsing and a slow agonising death…”
But hey, these four don’t even stack up to Amananta’s one month survey of the violence against women.
October 4, 2006 at 4:13 am
I am sickened to see, with each update of the Amish school house story, that the poor man was (implied) driven to do what he did by the devastating memory of his newborn daughter dying. What? Oh right. The little girls he’d molested 20 years ago, too. Now in second mention, rather than first.
October 4, 2006 at 4:24 am
No matter how they spin it, they will spin it in a way which makes it a female’s fault – and then when we point out he JUST HATED WOMEN, they accuse US of trying to put a political spin on things.
October 4, 2006 at 10:57 am
Stormcloud – oh yes, I know the fantasies.
I know that women who defend themselves are treated even more harshly by the patriarchy, despite the fact that they also blame women who don’t “do enough” to protect themselves. If women started striking back in an organized way against rapists and wife beaters and woman killers, they would call us vigilantes or terrorists. Whne women put up with being beaten half to death for 20 years and then finally snap and kill the asshole who’s been beating them, they are treated like cold-blooded killers – and when thy put up with it and don’t leave because they know no one else is going to protect them, they are blamed for staying. Women lose either way. Maybe it’s time to lose fighting. Maybe it’s time to start that women’s army that we don’t have now. I don’t know. I’m a bit frustrated, in case you can’t tell.
October 4, 2006 at 3:35 pm
RE: those last few paragraphs.
Took my breath away. You’ve written exactly what I’ve been thinking and feeling for some time now. Therein lies a painful truth that women everywhere must swallow – men are ineffectual at stoping violence – against each other, or us. Where they are not personally responsible, they turn the other cheek. Where they are personally responsible, they lay the blame elsewhere – usually on the women. And the deck is stacking in their favor. Priviledge means they don’t even have to care about what happens to women. And they don’t care – this I’ve come to know. They pretend to care, while they throw up their hands and proclaim they are powerless to stop it. And then they say “well, it’s not fair, but you’re (women) just going to have to be more careful.”
I do not know if we can fight back, or how – without becoming exactly like them. (Lysistrata, anyone?) I know that I am sick of feeling and being powerless.
Perhaps this is a place to start? http://www.mencanstoprape.org/ http://uncommonman.mensresourcesinternational.org/
October 4, 2006 at 4:04 pm
Amananta, yes, totally agree with everything you said in your last comment about DV – women are ‘damned if you do, damned if you don’t’. Whatever they do or don’t do, they are blamed – never the perp with the penis.
Woman-army! Yep, count me in. Actually, I’m a damn good sniper (paintball).
I’ve been encouraging all the UK feminists to go to as many demos and marches as they can, only by having large numbers at these events will women ever be taken seriously.
I think part of the reason more women (in general) aren’t up in arms about all this violence is due to the under-reporting in the media (as you mentioned earlier). Unfortunately, the media is a bloke-fest, so I don’t know how to get around that one.
Yes, I too have reached that level of frustration and anger. Poo-poo to pacifism, we are at war. Unfortunately, to do anything directly, is subject to men’s laws. The only way to get around that one is to do it with numbers, as individual women will be dealt with most harshly.
October 4, 2006 at 5:33 pm
Just a little taste of the utter cluelessness that allows male terrorism to continue.
from http://hugoboy.typepad.com/hugo_schwyzer/ – please note that these comments are not from the blog owner, but some seriously misogynistic posters to the blog.
from justaguy –
“Recognizing your gross hyperbole (e.g., rape is not “ubiquitous,” but in fact quite rare in our society) for what it is – and therefore rightfully dismissing it as such – reveals once again the predictable response from feminists when such things happen: Rather than recognizing the reality that these men are extremely disturbed individuals who represent the most rare fringe of males, feminists jump on this like hungry dogs on a steak and use it to advance their campaign to malign and denegrate men. These people are no more representative of men as a group than Lorena Bobbitt, Clara Harris, Aileen Wuornos, et al. are of women as a group. All are profoundly mentally disturbed and should be seen as such. Further, stirring up paranoia and suspicion against men in women contributes absolutely nothing of value to society, especially for relations between men and women (which are already strained to the breaking point) and indeed just might contribute to the problem. Yes, we should be trying to understand why these people are going ballistic, but to use these incidents as a tool to incite suspicion and paranoia of an entire group is shameful. It’s akin to what the whites in Atlanta did prior to the 1906 race riots. Hugo, I certainly hope that this is not the direction your hoping to take this topic.”
From burton-
Quoting Hugo: “As a pro-feminist gender studies prof, if there’s one topic that depresses me more than almost any other, it’s just how widespread male rage at women seems to be in our culture.”
Burton begins:
“And what are some of the reasons for this male rage?
1) Women’s sexist double standards. e.g., women who expect men to pick up the check when dating.
2) Women lying about using birth control in order to entrap men into marriage/child support.
3) Women making false charges of rape.
4) Women thinking violence against women is bad but ignoring their own violence againt men (check out V-Day).
5) Women extending the definition of “sexual harassment” to include just about anything they do not like men doing, thereby destroying the careers of many men.
As soon as women are willing to address their own sexism, the violance will stop.”
from The Biscuit Queen –
“While Burton may have not phrased things as I would, he is right in a way. Men are increasingly becoming angry with the world, with society, not just at women. Watching everyone from schools, government, law enforcement and the court system excuse women’s bad behavior then claim they are powerless is frustrating. Everywhere violence against men is laughed at, romanced, encouraged and excused. Violence against women is condemned (as it should be), and even in the porn industry true violent porn is not the norm. Most men are NOT turned on by rape or assault. That is like saying most porn is pedophilia.”
So, I posted this list of recent acts of violence against women and asked burton if his list of goofy reasons were in any way justified by these examples. I also posted the recent rape link from Punkassblog to ask Biscuit Queen that if it’s so rare – why is violent and rape porn on the rise?
I expect to get flamed or ignored in response.
October 4, 2006 at 6:13 pm
It makes me so depressed and consumed by despair to live in this world. It has been obvious to me ever since I was little that the world hates everything female but I have never had the words to describe it, so thank you for this.
Male terrorism is the reason why I am so depressed and why I hate men, and also why I suffer from PTSD. Men obviously hate women, yet they can’t seem to keep their fucking hands off of us, one way or another. Life experience and various news sources on a daily basis confirm it is true.
I hate men, I really do. I hate men because most men hate women and the rest of them that are “good” don’t do enough (if anything at all) to stop other men from hurting us. I have always been passive and quite about my anger because, beyond dealing with severe self esteem issues that the patriarchy chips at everyday of my life, I have always unknowingly bought into the women-should-never-get-angry crap. I am working on changing this.
Sorry for this rant, thank you for your blog, please do not ever stop writing.
October 4, 2006 at 7:18 pm
“I hate men because most men hate women and the rest of them that are “good” don’t do enough (if anything at all) to stop other men from hurting us. ”
Hugo’s blog has a showcase of all the goofy non-sequitirs one always has to deal with when, in mixed company, the subject of male terrorism comes up. But it seems to me that the so-called “nice” ones are ineffectual in dealing with this problem possibly because they don’t like being lumped in with the “bad” ones. It’s as if they would rather see women perpetually abused then to admit that they have priviledge and entitlement issues. They treat the problems are insignificant and not their problem personally (the very definitions of priviledge), and trot out a list of mostly trumped up charges against women as if any even remotely justify male terrorism.
I don’t hate men. Sometimes, I wish I could, but I don’t. I hate patriarchy, I hate male ignorance and refusal to deal with the simple obvious truth, but I don’t hate them – generally speaking. I can’t stand some individual men, just as I can’t stand some individual women. Though this will most likely sound silly to some – I think they are socialized to be ignorant and selfish. I do believe that most people are inherently good – it is the patriarchy that sours them.
On another blog one poster took a troll to task for berating overweight people by saying that trolls often attack that which they hate the most in themselves. That perhaps this troll’s own weight issues was the real problem. I don’t know how true that is, but that is the way I view misogyny. They hate us for all the things that they are and they do, so they don’t have to admit the same of themselves. I.e. Women get pregnant just to trap boys and get at their money – it’s not boys who should take responsibility to not screw around, and to prevent pregnancy. Or even that boys should be responsible for the children their lack of personal responsiblity produces. Nah, women should have to deal with that. It’s the punishment for being easy – even though that’s exactly what boys want. Until they get it. But, oh yeah, it’s women who don’t know what they want.
See what I mean?
They’re got a lot of cowardly and pathetic excuses for why male terrorism exists and why they don’t do a damn thing to stop it. But that’s just a cover for their ineffectiveness and apathy. Which is why I most often refer to them as “boys”. To me, actual men wouldn’t behave in such a way.
October 4, 2006 at 7:59 pm
Lya Kahlo October 4th, 2006 at 7:18 pm
I agree. That is along the lines of how I feel most of the time, but you can articulate it much better than I. Often when I say “I hate men” it is because I am extremely frustrated and do not know how to express my anger.
They hate us for all the things that they are and they do, so they don’t have to admit the same of themselves.
Men project hatred of themselves and their actions onto women in the form of misogyny? Interesting thought, and scary.
October 4, 2006 at 8:58 pm
[...] …comes from amananta at Screaming Into the Void who asks “how long before they admit it?”Amananta lists fifty incidents of male violence against women/girls that made the national news in America over the last four weeks and she says: You can’t pick up a paper without finding at least one story a day about a man killing or raping a woman. And we all know many more stories never make the paper. Why not? Becasue there wouldn’t be room, because they have “more important” things to report on, because it’s so common it isn’t considered newsworthy unless there is some special twist to it. [...]
October 5, 2006 at 11:30 am
“Men project hatred of themselves and their actions onto women in the form of misogyny? Interesting thought, and scary. ”
Yes and no. I tried to further explain what I’m gettnig at in the next bit. It’s women who should stay home and take care of the children. But it’s also us who “traps” them into marriage/relationships with pregnancies. But, if a boy isn’t around – exactly how are women supposed to stay home and take care of the kids?
I don’t know if I’m being clear. Basically, they give us a damned if you do, damned if you don’t place in society while rejecting all responsibility. I think it’s just another tool in the Patriarchy tool box. No matter what women do, we’re wrong, but boys don’t have to do a damn thing. It’s all our fault.
October 6, 2006 at 5:50 pm
Absolutely fantastic post. Thank you.
October 11, 2006 at 2:17 pm
I’m so frustrated because I look at these things, I *see* them, and I don’t know what to do. I feel so helpless, truly. I’m floundering around in the blogosphere feeling lost and wanting to do something and constantly being confronted with my own friends, my male friends, telling me I’m wrong. I talk to them and they do everything except *actually* pat me on the head and tell me I’m cute when I’m mad. I wrote about it here, but I can’t seem to express to them that THERE IS A PROBLEM HERE. That being told there isn’t a problem because *they can’t see it* is so incredibly condenscending that I can barely breath for it, and I *don’t know what to do*.
I don’t know what to do, what to say, how to help, how to fight, how to do *anything*, because the people I can talk to just ignore it and think it’ll go away, or don’t see it at all. I can’t talk to my elected officials – I’m an expat in a strange country, and they won’t hear my voice here and won’t hear it back home, and it’s the *attitudes* that have to change, not the damned laws.
I don’t know what to do, and I keep wishing I did.
October 11, 2006 at 9:31 pm
Fuck off, troll.
October 11, 2006 at 10:35 pm
Huh, somehow I missed this. Thanks.
October 30, 2006 at 12:15 am
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